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  When you read this Richard Glossip will probably be dead.

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  how do i feel about this?.

  too much doubt.. shame on you people who are responsible for putting richard to death.. richard is scheduled to be put to death in oklahoma at 3pm on september 16th by lethal injection.

  i have followed this case and feel like so many people very bad about this.

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  The following statement is worth reading twise:-

  " This court has never held that the constitution forbids the execution of a convicted defendant who has had a fair trial, BUT IS LARTER able to convince a court that he is actually innocent" Antonia Scalla ( Supreme Court)

  Furthermore I am not claiming to be smarter than the Governor of Oaklahoma, who says:-

  " We find none of the material to be credible evidence of Richard Gossips INNOCENCE"

  The Rebel:- But surely that is the wrong way around? Isn't it criminal guilt that needs to be established " beyond a reasonable doubt?" Credible evidence of innocence is great, but doesn't taking the uncoraberated statement of a confessed killer as the only basis for a death sentence raise reasonable doubt?

  The list of people who received the death sentence and were later esonerated would make a long thread. Now I am not saying Richard is innocent. Truth is I don't know. But public opinion spoke out yesterday, because people do know the " evidence" in this case is simply not suffient for capital punishment.

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  When you read this Richard Glossip will probably be dead.

  by The Rebel in

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  how do i feel about this?.

  too much doubt.. shame on you people who are responsible for putting richard to death.. richard is scheduled to be put to death in oklahoma at 3pm on september 16th by lethal injection.

  i have followed this case and feel like so many people very bad about this.

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  Sir82:- Execution halted.

  Tempoariy relief then another two weeks of mental torture to endure, before the new date on sept 30th. That's twice now Richard has been hours from that lethal injection. Surely that is enough to break mentally even the strongest of us.

  It amazes me that they choose to execute this man on such a weak case. It amazes me because it wouldn't be the first time an innocent man has been executed. It amazes me because if they want to execute someone, then there are so many who have committed the most vile and evil crimes where guilt is not an issue,

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  It had sounded to good to be true.

  by The Rebel in

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  because it wasn't true anyway.

  it was a dream.

  the insanest dream, to believe that i was going to live forever.. but today i am alive, and i am determined to travel the seconds between life and death aware of my mortality.

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  Vinman I am pleased for you, that you still have a faith.

  Doc I hope you continue to lead a happy and successful life!

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  When you read this Richard Glossip will probably be dead.

  by The Rebel in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  how do i feel about this?.

  too much doubt.. shame on you people who are responsible for putting richard to death.. richard is scheduled to be put to death in oklahoma at 3pm on september 16th by lethal injection.

  i have followed this case and feel like so many people very bad about this.

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  Simon the convicted killer, the man who did the killing is in prison. He got life rather than death by implicating Richard, as the man who put him up to it.

  As if that is compelling evidence to put a man to death.

  As for motive?

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  When you read this Richard Glossip will probably be dead.

  by The Rebel in

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  how do i feel about this?.

  too much doubt.. shame on you people who are responsible for putting richard to death.. richard is scheduled to be put to death in oklahoma at 3pm on september 16th by lethal injection.

  i have followed this case and feel like so many people very bad about this.

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  Witness my Fury: (Q) " why have you spent weeks doing nothing about it?"

  The Rebel. (A) That is an ASSUMPTIVE comment. I have personally partitioned and even on posts on this site asked members to review the case and sign the partition if they agree.

  Witness my Fury ( Q) " you seem unable to read a reply with out misunderstanding it"

  The Rebel ( A) possibly that is often the case, words are such an unsattisfactory way to communicate, as your above comments proved.

  Anyway we can quarrel, but the more important issue in my opinion is that today is a cold day for justice in Oaklahoma.

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  When you read this Richard Glossip will probably be dead.

  by The Rebel in

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  how do i feel about this?.

  too much doubt.. shame on you people who are responsible for putting richard to death.. richard is scheduled to be put to death in oklahoma at 3pm on september 16th by lethal injection.

  i have followed this case and feel like so many people very bad about this.

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  Witness My Fury. "i can't take any of your comments seriously Rebel after the moon landing noncence"

  The Rebel. Then don't reply to them.

  Witnes My Fury. "I'm pretty sure he is not facing death if the other guy was, or is that just wishful thinking on my part"

  The Rebel. " I'm pretty sure" is not in my mind a reason to put a man to death.So why not research the case before you reply? It might even clarify your " Guilt by association" comment.

  The FACT is innocent people are put to death, and I don't care if millions are happy with that justice. I am not. And I am not the only one. This is why Dr Phil opened his new season a week early to highlight this case. This is why people like Richard Branson and millions of ordinary people have partitioned to prevent this execution.

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  When you read this Richard Glossip will probably be dead.

  by The Rebel in

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  how do i feel about this?.

  too much doubt.. shame on you people who are responsible for putting richard to death.. richard is scheduled to be put to death in oklahoma at 3pm on september 16th by lethal injection.

  i have followed this case and feel like so many people very bad about this.

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  Witness My Fury. " more guns is always the answer. It's the American way"

  The Rebel " What has that to do with this case?"

  As Richard said " Unless it's your life on the line you don't know how heavy it is"

  In January The U.S suspended Richards impending execution, at the final hour.

  Richard " It's so unbelievable"

  Now today Richard has to go through those final terrifying hours again, only this time it doesn't look like his execution will be suspended. That in itself, putting a man, (any man) through what Richard went through in January, only to repeat that today only this time to put the lethal injection in Richards arm is ....well imagine it.

  How can Richard be put to death, based on the testimony of the man who admitted doing the killing?

  And why did he implicate Richard?

  (A) So he wouldn't get the death sentence himself.

  What was Richards motive?

  (A) An answer would be appreciated.

  If it can happen to Richard it could happen to ME it can happen to YOU.

  The EVIDENCE for Richards execution only a few hours away now, IS WHAT?

  Richards being executed is as absurd as me killing someone and saying you put me up to it, so they execute you and not me.

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  When you read this Richard Glossip will probably be dead.

  by The Rebel in

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  how do i feel about this?.

  too much doubt.. shame on you people who are responsible for putting richard to death.. richard is scheduled to be put to death in oklahoma at 3pm on september 16th by lethal injection.

  i have followed this case and feel like so many people very bad about this.

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  How do I feel about this?

  TOO MUCH DOUBT.

  Shame on you people who are responsible for putting Richard to death.

  Richard is scheduled to be put to death in Oklahoma at 3pm on September 16th by lethal injection. I have followed this case and feel like so many people very bad about this.

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  Humanism and Witnisam.

  by The Rebel in

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  well it seems for many on this board the time came to leave the w.t and cross the bridge in to a real world.

  speaking for myself l feel i did not enter the cold and lonely world i was lead to believe i was entering.

  rather i have discovered it was no great loss leaving a world that had protected me with false, dreams, fantazy and false promises.. but what have i really achieved by my leaving that i value?.

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  Alive " I dared to say I felt like giving a " witness" was like handling the population a death sentence ...." " I am sure this motivated more than a few WT loyalists"

  The Rebel:- I remember a little gem " phrase" that used to appear in the W.T, which was " we were giving " A FINAL WITNESS"

  And so many years later, that " FINAL WITNESS" is still being given.

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  "So that we will not be confused with salesmen, it is best not to mention the donation arrangement unless we are asked..."

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  "so that we will not be confused with salesmen, it is best not to mention the donation arrangement unless we are asked how our work is financed.".

  this damning quote is found on page 1 of the september 2015 our kingdom ministry, the last sentence in the 3rd bullet point under the sub-heading how to do it.

  this quote amounts to an implicit admission that the jw practice of mentioning the donation arrangement to householders at the door, makes them look like door to door salesmen.. why would "jehovah's organization" be engaging in a practice that is nothing more than a transparent attempt at undercover soliciting?

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  Who felt awkward asking for donations?

  Householder " are the magazine free?"

  the pitch as taught at the Theogratic Ministry School:-

  Witness " Well the magazines are free of charge, but not free of cost"

  Householder " So do you want a donation or not?"

  Witness " a voluntary donation would be appreciated"

  Now as to the question did I feel awkward using this pitch?

  A little embarrassed, but more awkward when a householder would give a ridiculously generos donation for the flimsy magazines I new they wouldn't read anyway.

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